Letter VII and the hemispheric model

From time to time people say that if you accept Letter VII and the New York Cumorah, you have to also accept the hemispheric model of Book of Mormon geography.

Usually that claim is made without further analysis, as if Letter VII itself describes a hemispheric model. But it doesn’t.

The only thing Letter VII establishes is that Cumorah–the Cumorah of the final battles, the Cumorah of Mormon 6:6, etc.–is the hill in New York where Joseph obtained the plates.

It’s true that some contemporaries of Joseph Smith described a hemispheric model. There was quite a bit of speculation about where the Book of Mormon events took place, but zero speculation about any site for Cumorah other than New York. The 1879 Orson Pratt footnotes are a perfect example. I have a separate post on that scheduled for later this week.

It is because of this unanimous and universal understanding about the New York Cumorah that I say Cumorah is a pin in the map. It’s the touchstone between our modern world and the world of the Nephites and Jaredites. It’s the one sure thing we can rely on, and it was given to us unambiguously and definitely by Joseph and Oliver in Letter VII.

As I’ve documented on this blog and elsewhere, some LDS scholars and educators nevertheless continue to insist that Cumorah is not in New York and cannot be in New York. They almost don’t care where it is so long as it is not in New York.

I attribute their approach to Mesomania. Others attribute it to stubbornness, academic pride, and similar concerns.
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Back to the hemispheric model argument.

The reason people link Letter VII to the hemispheric model is not because Oliver or Joseph did, but because the scholars have created the link in their minds.

They insist that most of the events in the Book of Mormon took place in Central America. Therefore, they reason, a New York Cumorah means a hemispheric model; i.e., the Nephites would have had to travel all the way from Central America to New York, an idea that they ridicule as absurd.

Actually, I tend to agree with them on that point. But the absurdity arises from the Mesoamerican setting, not from the New York Cumorah.
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Maybe I should start referring to Mesoamerican proponents as anti-Letter-Seveners. These anti-Letter-Seveners have basically suppressed Letter VII for decades. Now, thanks in part to the Joseph Smith Papers project, Letter VII is available to anyone with Internet access. Thousands of Church members are discovering it for the first time.

So what does a good anti-Letter-Sevener do?

Try to link it to the discredited hemispheric model.

Let’s pretend we’re anti-Letter-Seveners for a minute.

We can observe that right in Letter VII, Oliver Cowdery described Joseph Smith’s thoughts as he approached the hill to get the plates. Joseph was thinking about the value of the plates and how they would relieve him of poverty. On the other hand, he was commanded to work with the plates only for the glory of God. But he could sell the valuable history for a lot of money. As Oliver wrote, “to use his own words it seemed as though two invisible powers were influencing, or striving to influence his mind.”

Oliver observed one reason the history would be valuable: “A history of the inhabitants who peopled this continent, previous to its being discovered to Europeans by Columbus, must be interesting to every man; and as it would develope [develop] the important fact, that the present race were descendants of Abraham, and were to be remembered in the immutable covenant of the Most High to that man, and be restored to a knowledge of the gospel, that they, with all nations might rejoice, seemed to inspire further thoughts of gain and income from such a valuable history.”

While we’re in the anti-Letter-Sevener mode, we will interpret this to mean that Oliver and Joseph thought the plates were describing a hemispheric setting for the Nephites and the Jaredites.

Let’s step out of anti-Letter-Sevener mode and look at the facts.

Joseph entertained these thoughts before he translated the plates. Before he even obtained them. Oliver is not representing what the plates said, only what Joseph thought they would, or might, say.

Scholars can debate about what Oliver meant here; i.e., does “peopled this continent” mean North America, or all of the Western Hemisphere? What did he mean by saying “this continent” was “discovered to Europeans by Columbus?” Those are the type of debates scholars love because there is never any resolution.

But the debate is irrelevant because Oliver was not writing about what the record actually contained; he was writing about what Joseph thought it would contain before he translated a single word.

Oliver’s description of what Joseph was thinking before he obtained the plates is irrelevant to what Joseph and Oliver taught after they have translated the plates.
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In Letter VII, Oliver referred to the Indians as “red men” when he wrote this:

“the land was left to the possession of the red men, who were without intelligence, only in the affairs of their wars; and having no records, only preserving their history by tradition from father to son, lost the account of their true origin, and wandered from river to river, from hill to hill, from mountain to mountain, and from sea to sea, till the land was again peopled, in a measure, by a rude, wild, revengeful, warlike and barbarous race.-Such are our Indians.”

This passage could lead an anti-Letter-Sevener to claim that Oliver was referring to all indigenous Native Americans throughout the hemisphere. That might be difficult to believe, but the anti-Letter-Seveners have honed their rhetorical skills defending their Mesoamerican theories. Transforming Oliver’s sentence into a full-blown hemispheric model would not be any more difficult than what they’ve done with the Times and Seasons, Wentworth letter, Zelph account, etc.

But you can see for yourself that Oliver didn’t invoke Central or South America.

Oliver’s eight letters were part of a running correspondence with W.W. Phelps, who was living in Missouri at the time. Phelps wrote 11 letters to Oliver’s 8. The letters were published in the Messenger and Advocate between October 1834 and October 1835.

In his second letter, published in December 1834, Phelps wrote a poem titled “The Red Man.” [Note: the origins of the term “red man” are not clear, but likely involved the use of red pigment by certain tribes, such as a tribe in Newfoundland that used red ochre to paint their bodies, houses, canoes, etc. Europeans called them the “Red Indians.” I’m not aware of any example of the term being used for indigenous people in Central America.]

At the conclusion of his poem, Phelps wrote this:

“Besides the Delawares, Shawnees, Kickapoos, Wyandots, Pottowattomies, Senecas, Osages, Choctaws, Cherokees, Kaskaskias, Kansas, &c. &c. which our nation and the missionaries are domesticating as they are gathered, upon the southern limits of the land of Israel, the Pawnees, the Sioux, the Rickarees, the Mandans, the Nespersees, the Blackfeet, the Sacs, the Foxes, and many other tribes, rove and hunt from prairie to prairie, from river to river, from hill to hill, and from mountain to mountain, and live, and are blessed before the face of heaven daily as well as their contemporary whites; and, perhaps I may add, are as justifiable before God, as any people on the globe, called heathens.”

Note that he referred to the North American tribes, not any people in Central or South America.

In Letter No. 3, January 1835, Phelps wrote another letter about the “various tribes of Indians” in the Missouri area. “About twenty miles from this post, the Delawares, and Shawnees, sit in darkness waiting patiently for a light to break forth out of obscurity, that they may know of their fathers, and of the great things to come.” Again, nothing about a hemispheric model.

In Letter No. 11, October 1835, Phelps’s final letter in the series, he wrote to Oliver about the Indians, suggesting the U.S. government was helping to “gather” them:

“The Indians occupy a large portion of the land of America, and, as they are a part of the creation of God, and are a remnant of the children of Israel, they must necessarily hear the gospel, and have a chance to be gathered into the fold of the Lord. Our government has already gathered many of the scattered remnants of tribes, and located them west of the Missouri, to be nationalized and civilized; and feeling, as every saint must, a deep interest in their salvation, I rejoice to see the great work prosper. The Indians are the people of the Lord; they are of the tribes of Israel; the blood of Joseph, with a small mixture of the royal blood of Judah, and the hour is nigh when they will come flocking into the kingdom of God, like doves to their windows; yea, as the book of Mormon foretells-they will soon become a white and delightsome people.”

Later, in the same letter, Phelps went on to speculate about the extent and location of the tribes of Israel:

“Again the Commissioners stated that “thirty tribes, containing a population of 156,310, have held treaties with the United States, and that there is an Indian population east of the Mississippi, of 92,676,”-making a total of 405,286. Now allowing the same number west of the Mountains, and suppose 800,000, in the northern regions of the Canadas, and 500,000 in South America, there will be 2,110,562 of the sons of Joseph, and of the remnants of the Jews. A goodly number to be willing in the day of the Lord’s power, to help build up the waste places of Zion. A blessed band to be restored to mercy and enjoy the chief things of ancient mountains; even the deep things that couch beneath.
The parts of the globe that are known probably contain 700 millions of inhabitants, and those parts which are unknown may be supposed to contain more than four times as many more, making an estimated total of about three thousand, five hundred and eighty millions of souls: Let no man marvel at his statement, because there may be a continent at the north pole, of more than 1300 square miles, containing thousands of millions of Israelites, who, after a high way is cast up in the great deep, may come to Zion, singing songs of everlasting joy.”

Oliver’s final letter, Letter VIII, was published in the same Oct. 1835 issue. I know of no response he gave to Phelps’ speculations.
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Consequently, I can’t find anything in Oliver’s letters that suggest, let alone require, a link between the New York Cumorah and any hemispheric model of Book of Mormon geography.

   

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Why anti-Mormons love Book of Mormon Central

I wrote this post several months ago and I’ve been reluctant to publish it. Hopefully no one gets offended because no offense is intended, but it’s time to get real. I’ve asked the scholars not to read this blog so they won’t get offended. They won’t talk to me about these things anyway, so I assume they don’t care what I think (which is evident from the things they continue to publish).

For ordinary members of the Church, this is an important, even critical issue. We’re approaching the one-year anniversary of Book of Mormon Central and it’s time to review what has happened in the last year. There’s a lot of great stuff on that web page, especially the research material by Royal Skousen. There is a lot of potential to do good with all the resources at their disposal. The people who work there and contribute are all great, etc.

Then why do I say anti-Mormons love Book of Mormon Central?

Because Book of Mormon Central and its affiliates such as FairMormon, the Interpreter, BMAF, and all the rest, are adhering to the two-Cumorahs theory that underlies their obsession with Mesoamerica. They’re not only adhering to it, but they’re emphasizing it, as I’ve observed on this blog and elsewhere. And they refuse to let their readers even learn about alternatives to their two-Cumorahs theory because they are not neutral about Book of Mormon geography.

In my opinion they are doing far more damage than good.

Short of claiming Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery were frauds about everything, the best an anti-Mormon can hope for is a claim by LDS scholars that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church for 100 years until these LDS scholars exposed their errors.

And that’s exactly what Book of Mormon Central has been teaching the youth of the Church for the last year.

Joseph Fielding Smith warned that this two-Cumorahs theory would cause members to become confused and disturbed in their faith in the Book of Mormon. The scholars not only ignored him, but now they say he didn’t know what he was talking about and even as President of the Quorum of the Twelve, he was speaking as a man and he was wrong because they, the scholars, know better.

And yet, one of the greatest gifts to anti-Mormon activists is the two-Cumorahs theory and the limited geography Mesoamerican setting of Book of Mormon geography.

Look at what it has accomplished.

Thanks to Mesomania, we have LDS scholars (and the educators they’ve trained) teaching members of the Church, all around the world, these gems:

1. Oliver Cowdery was unreliable and not credible.
2, David Whitmer was unreliable and not credible.
3. Joseph Smith didn’t know much about the Book of Mormon and speculated about its setting.
4. Joseph Smith changed his mind between 1829 and 1842. He was wrong in the 1830s, and in the 1840s, he gradually came to “realize” the setting was in Mesoamerica.
5. Joseph Smith adopted a folk tale about Cumorah in New York that was created early in the Church by unknown persons at unknown times. In D&C 128, Joseph was referring to a hill in Mexico.
6. Joseph Smith said we have to rely on scholars to figure out the setting for the Book of Mormon.
7. When Joseph said Moroni taught him about the early inhabitants of the country, Moroni forgot to say anything about where they lived and didn’t show them in vision to Joseph.
8. When Joseph and Oliver and others told Brigham Young they had visited a room in the Hill Cumorah in New York that contained the Nephite records, they were actually describing a vision of an unknown hill somewhere in Mexico (or Baja, or Panama, or Chile, or somewhere else–actually, anywhere but New York).
9. Church leaders and members were wrong about the New York Cumorah during Joseph’s lifetime and for 100 years afterward.
10. The New York hill can’t be the Book of Mormon Cumorah because a) a student asked farmers on the north and east of the hill about artifacts, and they said they hadn’t found any and b) a highway survey 20 miles away didn’t uncover evidence of ancient cities.
11. The “two-Cumorahs theory” correctly explains how Joseph, Oliver and David were wrong and how the modern LDS scholars are right.
12. When Joseph Fielding Smith denounced the two-Cumorah theory because it caused members to become confused and disturbed in their faith in the Book of Mormon, he was speaking as an uninformed individual, not as the Church Historian and a 20-year member of the Quorum of the Twelve.
13. When Joseph Fielding Smith repeated his warning as President of the Quorum of the Twelve, he still didn’t know what he was talking about.
14. When Marion G. Romney and Mark E. Petersen identified the New York hill as the scene of the final battles in General Conference in the 1970s, they were perpetuating a false tradition, misleading members of the Church.
15. Modern prophets and apostles rely on the scholars at BYU for advice, so these scholars should also be followed by the Church membership instead of all the prophets and apostles who have affirmed the New York Cumorah.
16. When the Book of Mormon speaks of a choice land and a promised land from which the gospel would go to the world, it refers to southern Mexico and Guatemala.
17. Church media correctly depicts Nephites living among Mayan pyramids and stone palaces, in jungles full of jaguars and tapirs, and in the midst of a far larger and more sophisticated Mayan civilization that absorbed Lehi’s descendants without a trace. The Church spent hundreds of thousands of dollars looking in Central America, to no avail, but now people should spend millions of dollars teaching this theory to the world. BYU and CES have sent professors and staff on “Book of Mormon” tours to Central America and BYU faculty continue to take people on “Book of Mormon” tours to that area.
18. No non-LDS Mesoamerican scholar finds any evidence that supports the Book of Mormon, but that’s because they are not seeing all the “correspondences” between the text and the archaeology. For example, the Mayans had banners, and Captain Moroni had a banner, so Captain Moroni was a Mayan.
19. A council of scholars can determine the correct interpretation of Book of Mormon geography passages so long as they are trained in the ministry.
20. Anyone who questions the Mesoamerican theory is ignorant, deceptive, and only in it for the money.
21. The exception to #20 is people who question the Mesoamerican theory but agree Cumorah cannot be in New York, such as those who promote the Baja, Panama, Chile, and other theories. IOW, as long as you portray Joseph and Oliver as ignorant speculators who misled the Church, you’re okay with the scholars.
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With those 21 principles well understood, let’s look at how the anti-Mormons use the Mesoamerican theory. First, of course, they all attack the 3 Witnesses. Here’s an example of the criticism, which the Mesoamerican theory helps support:

“Overview of Critics’ position

“The witnesses, by their own admission, seemed to have only seen the angel and plates in a ‘visionary state’ in their minds as Joseph suggested to them and not really with their natural eyes as members are taught. Why would real, metal plates need to be seen in a vision or with ‘spiritual eyes’ as many of the witnesses later testified?

“Critics also point out several issues that call into question the witnesses’ reliability and trustworthiness. For example, all the witnesses had close ties to Joseph and his family. Martin Harris, had a substantial financial stake in the success of the Book of Mormon. Moreover, in the upcoming years, many of the witnesses ended up leaving the church and following other leaders and religions. By 1847, not one of the surviving eleven witnesses was part of the LDS Church. If they believed Joseph Smith’s miraculous revelations from God were true, why would they have left the Church?”

[Comment: LDS scholars say that when he wrote Letter VII, Oliver was merely speculating about Cumorah, but Oliver actually wrote it was a fact that the final battles took place there. The argument of LDS scholars reinforces the anti-Mormon claim that Oliver would say anything, regardless of truth. The LDS scholars also support the anti-Mormon claim that David Whitmer was superstitious and prone to incorporating others’ ideas as his own testimony. The LDS scholars compound the problem and reinforce the anti-Mormon claims by insisting that Joseph and Oliver merely had a vision of the cache of Nephite records, because the Hill Cumorah is actually in Mexico.]

[By contrast, in Moroni’s America, all of these accounts are reconciled. Letter VII is correct; David Whitmer did see a messenger who took the plates to Cumorah to exchange them for the plates of Nephi; Joseph and Oliver (and others) did enter the records repository in the Hill Cumorah in New York, on multiple occasions; and David Whitmer knew they moved the plates to another location. The Mesoamerican setting relies on visionary superstition, while Moroni’s America relies on actual physical realities, plainly described by the early brethren.]
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Here are examples of how the Mesoamerican theory itself is addressed by anti-Mormons:

1. Sandra Tanner of the Utah Lighthouse Ministry points out on this web page how the LDS scholars claim to be more reliable than the President of the LDS Church and an apostle. She also points out how the LDS scholars reject the story of Zelph. She notes there is still no viable archaeology to support the Book of Mormon.

2. The CES letter discussion gets a lot of mileage out of the Mesoamerican theory here. [search for Limited Geography on that page.] He points out that “Mormon apologists are currently warring with each other over hemispheric vs. limited geography. Limited geography apologists cannot even agree on the location or even its compass direction. Here are just a few examples of the different proposed Limited Geography Maps, just to illustrate the lack of consensus among “Limited Geography” apologists:” and then gives six examples of Mesoamerican models that conflict with each other. He also shows the obvious conflict between what Joseph Smith said and the limited geography Mesoamerican model. (To make his point, he incorrectly claims Joseph taught the hemispheric model, but his observations about the Mesoamerican model are spot on. The only response to date that I’m aware of is the “Hinterlands” idea that Joseph was actually recognizing and identifying Nephite sites outside the narrative of the text, but of course that presents as many problems as the Mesoamerican model itself.)

Cartoon from CES letter

For example, he writes: “There is more evidence of the Book of Mormon setting being in Joseph Smith’s region than there is for FairMormon’s fringe Limited Geography Model. The following links are some examples of hypothetical Book of Mormon geography maps illustrated by apologists:
Map #1
Map #2
Map #3
As shown by these examples, Limited Geography apologists cannot even agree on where the events of the Book of Mormon took place. They have no real geographical setting in which to set the Book of Mormon. Not only do they have to ignore the similarities in town names in Joseph’s backyard but they have to ignore Joseph Smith and other “prophets, seers, and revelators” who taught that the Book of Mormon took place in New York, Illinois, and elsewhere on the North American continent. Joseph even pointed to the Hill Cumorah as the actual Hill Cumorah in the Book of Mormon. This is not good enough, however, for Limited Geography apologists who insist they know better than Joseph Smith, latter-day “prophets, seers, and revelators” and the Church itself.”

3. Lots of letters on ex-Mormon sites mention the problems with Mesoamerica. While many of these objections are themselves based on fallacies, others make good points. Here’s an example: “In addition, there are too many things mentioned in the Book of Mormon which should not ever be there: silk, steel, horses, chariots, wheels, swords, animals, plants, wheat, barley, Greek words and Greek personal names like Timothy and Jonas, direct quotes from Paul and from the New Testament, quotes from the book of Isaiah and other parts of the Old Testament written after Lehi left Jerusalem, numerous anachronistic terms like synagogue and cimeter, Christian practices (like baptism and missionary work) during the Law of Moses time–well before Jesus came to the earth, and many others. There are also many things not mentioned, which most likely should have been mentioned: the Law of Moses and other Jewish customs and practices; there is no mention of Passover or any feasts; common Mesoamerican crops and animals are never discussed.

Some other major problems with the Book of Mormon include: the American Indian races genetic structure is Mongoloid in origin–not Jewish; the written and spoken Indian languages ( both the original language stocks and language families) do not have any resemblance to Jewish or Egyptian whatsoever; and not one Mesoamerican city or location has been identified as a match to a Book of Mormon location.

Mormons either ignore the facts (and hope they go away), or they stretch their imaginations in order to explain these facts away. I read many pro-Mormon theories, books, and articles (such as from FARMS and Hugh Nibley) and I tried my hardest to explain these problems away for a number of years; but there was always something in the back of my mind or the pit of my stomach which told me otherwise. I wanted so much to believe in the Book of Mormon and for the church to be true. I remember the day clearly when I announced to myself that all of these BOM problems go away if I simply realize that the Book of Mormon is nothing more than inspired fiction. Poof, I suddenly felt enlightened about the matter, and it felt like a huge burden was lifted from my soul. I felt like the truth had been manifested to myself, and that the truth had “made me free” of these BOM problems.

4. A typical Christian web site challenges the Book of Mormon this way:

According to the Smithsonian Institute of Washington, D.C., USA, the following items (which, according to The Book of Mormon, existed in the Americas between 600 B.C. and 421 A.D.) have absolutely no evidence for existing in the America’s during the time in question:
Silk—Alma 4:6, Nephi 13:7, Alma 1:29
Horses—Enos 1:21, Alma 18:9, 3 Nephi 3: 1, Nephi 18:25
Steel—Jarom 1:8, 2 Nephi 5:15,16, 1 Nephi 4:9, 16:18
Iron—2 Nephi 5:15, 20:34, Jarom 1:8, Mosiah 11:8
Coins—Alma 11:5-19
Donkeys—1 Nephi 18:25, Mosiah 5:14, 12:5
Cattle, Cow, and Oxen—Enos 1:21; 3 Nephi 3:22, 6: 1 Nephi 18:25
Pigs—3 Nephi 7:8
Grain and Wheat—Mosiah 9:9; Helaman 11:17

If The Book of Mormon is true, certainly some evidence for the items mentioned above should have been unearthed by modern-day archaeologists. But where are the objects of steel, iron, and brass that are mentioned throughout The Book of Mormon? Has the Mormon church uncovered even one coin as mentioned in the book of Alma? Mormon 6:9-15 states that many thousands of men fought a great battle armed with swords, bows, arrows and axes, but have archaeologists discovered any of these items dating back to that time period on this continent? According to Ether 15:2, two million Jaredite peoples (men, women and children) were killed in battle, yet there is not a trace of this battle anywhere. Ether 15:15 claims that men, women, and children armed with shields, breastplates, and headplates, fought a great battle with much loss of life—yet not one article of battle has been found to date.

[There are problems with this criticism, such as the text doesn’t mention coins. But the archaeological evidence in North America fits much better than the evidence in Central America. Throughout North America, thousands of arrows, atlatl heads, axes, etc. have been found in the areas expected in the Moroni’s America setting. All the evidence of ancient horses is in North America, as is silk and grain. In North America, there are species that compare with cattle, cows and oxen, and there is evidence of ancient smelting.]

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The New York Cumorah should be a given. That location doesn’t determine the rest of Book of Mormon geography, anyway, except in the minds of the LDS scholars who promote the two-Cumorahs theory. 

At this point, the best outcome is that LDS people see through what Book of Mormon Central is doing and choose the prophets and apostles over these scholars.

If you’re a member of the Church, ask yourself this simple question: how does it help the cause to have LDS scholars at Book of Mormon Central and its affiliates insist that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church, and that the modern prophets and apostles have perpetuated a false tradition about Cumorah?

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Towers and Pyramids

In seeking consensus about Book of Mormon geography, I’ve pointed out that the text never mentions pyramids, jungles, Mayans, tapirs, etc. No one reading the text would think of Central America on the basis of the words alone.

To “see” Mesoamerica in the Book of Mormon, you have to be trained to see it. You have to have Mesomania. You have to have Arnold Friberg paintings inserted into the missionary and foreign-language editions, along with the painting of Christ visiting the Nephites among ruined Mayan temples with Chichen Itza in the background.

Let’s look at pyramids for a moment.

Mesomania teaches that the Book of Mormon does refer to pyramids. Joseph just used the wrong word when he translated the plates. He dictated “tower” instead of “pyramid.”

Or maybe Oliver Cowdery wrote down the wrong word and Joseph didn’t notice?

IOW, when you read with Mesomania lenses, substitute the word “pyramid” every time you see “tower” and you’ll find your Mesoamerican setting with no problems. Now you’re reading the correct translation.

Here’s one of my favorite examples:

You’ve got the classic Mesomania logo in the upper left corner, along with an article about all the pyramids in the Book of Mormon. As a reminder, BMAF is a club for people who want to prove the Mesoamerican setting, which is why it’s a division of Book of Mormon Central. If you’re looking for an organization dedicated to finding the truth about the Book of Mormon, including alternatives to Mesoamerica, BMAF and Book of Mormon Central aren’t for you.

If you have time, you should go read this article. It’s awesome. http://bmaf.org/node/598

Basically, the argument is that the “great tower” referenced three times in the Book of Mormon must be the “city and tower” described in Genesis 11:3-4. In that passage, people made bricks because they had no stone. They used “slime” for mortar.

Now, notice the sleight-of-hand typical of most Mesoamerican articles:

Towers in Mesoamerica
Structures made of brick, stone, and slime (mortar) were built at such locations as Cholula and Xochitictl in the states of Puebla and Tlaxcala, Mexico. These structures are made of brick (adobes), stones, and mortar. It appears that anciently, the term “tower” referred to a large towering structure made of brick and/or stone.
I believe that the Book of Mormon term “tower” refers to similarly large structures made of brick and/or of stone—structures we currently refer to as pyramids.

In the Bible, the people made bricks because they didn’t have stone. Hundreds if not thousands of years later in Mesoamerica, people built temples out of stone. There are a few instances of using kiln-fired bricks, such as the ones the author mentions and the Comalcalco site, but this dates to Late Classic (post-Book of Mormon times).

Now, ask yourself, can you think of a human civilization that doesn’t use stone or bricks for construction? This is yet another of the illusory correspondences between what Mesoamerican activists see in the text (in this case, pyramids) and fairly ubiquitous elements of human societies everywhere.

But maybe you’re thinking the Hopewell and Adena, who relied mainly on earthworks and timbers. If so, then you’re heading in the right direction.

Because the Book of Mormon never once mentions the people using stones or bricks for buildings!

This should be too obvious to have to repeat, but not only does the Book of Mormon never mention pyramids, it doesn’t even mention stone buildings!

The BMAF article nevertheless continues to claim that every mention of the word “tower” in the text actually should have been translated as “pyramid.”

This is really fun. This Mesomania-inspired thinking has brought us images such as this:

Here we have Nephi building his own pyramid right in his garden, near the highway! It’s a spectacular idea. Can’t you envision Nephi hauling these massive stones to his garden, carving the steps, etc.? He must have been more buff than the Arnold Friberg version.

Here’s another version of Nephi that’s so ridiculous I wouldn’t include it except to show how far some people take the Mesoamerican theory.

And, we have King Benjamin making his people build him a pyramid in about a day. The Nephites were the fastest stoneworkers in antiquity, no doubt.

I’m not kidding about this. There are several Mesoamerican advocates who actually claim the towers mentioned in connection with Nephi and King Benjamin were pyramids. They think this constitutes proof that the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica.

To summarize:

If you have Mesomania, this constitutes proof of the Mesoamerican setting:

The Book of Mormon mentions towers.

Seriously, that’s it. This is how they think. First, they say these “towers” must have been like the tower of Babel, even though the Book of Mormon references to that tower use the phrase “great tower.” Second, they say the Book of Mormon people built with stone and brick, even though the text never says anything of the sort. Third, they say Nephi had a stone pyramid in his garden, that King Benjamin’s people built him a one-use stone pyramid in about a day, that people built stone pyramids along their wooden walls as lookouts, etc.

Maybe my favorite is the claim that the Nephites were building pyramid towers near the temple pyramids. Notice in the BMAF logo that there is a temple on top of the pyramid. Every Mesomania organization uses a similar motive, including the Ancient America Foundation for which Book of Mormon Central is the front. But in Mosiah 11:12, King Noah “built a tower near the temple; yeah, a very high tower.” So, if you’ve got Mesomania, the temple is already on top of a pyramid, but that one wasn’t high enough, so Noah built an even bigger pyramid “near” the temple pyramid.

Not only did Mormon forget to mention that the temple was on top of a pyramid, but he forgot to explain how you’re going to build an even bigger pyramid near the first one. And, of course, Mormon forgot to mention that the Nephites built any buildings with stone (or brick), let alone all these “tower of Babel” pyramids.

Maybe now you understand why it’s so easy for the Mesoamerican scholars to “see” Mesomaerica whenever they read the text of the Book of Mormon. You just substitute a few words and voila, you’ve got Mayans instead of Nephites on every page.
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Alternatively, we can look at the types of towers that make sense. Except these can’t possibly be accurate because they fit the North American setting, and we know from LDS scholars that the North American setting is impossible (although some say it has a 2% chance of being correct). And we know North America is impossible because Cumorah cannot be in New York. And we know Cumorah cannot be in New York because it’s too far from Mesoamerica.

That might look like circular reasoning to you, but to an LDS PhD or JD scholar, it’s sound reasoning based on facts.

Here’s an artist’s depiction of a common sense tower:

Back in the day, when Mesomania hadn’t gone completely wild and people were still sorting through different possibilities, there were actually some good articles on this question. Scholars made connections with actual Hebrews instead of claiming Nephi and King Benjamin used the construction techniques they learned from the tower of Babel.

For example, some noticed that Ezra “stood upon a pulpit of wood” when he read the law to the people. Nehemiah 8:4. This was the platform used during the Feast of Tabernacles, which has also been compared with King Benjamin’s feast. In 2 Kings, the king stood on pillar-like platforms as described here.

You might wonder about the term “pulpit” in the KJV.

According to Strong’s Concordance, here, the Hebrew word used in Nehemiah 8:4, migdal of miigdalah, is normally translated as “tower.” It’s the same term used in Geneses 11:4-5, but here in Nehemiah it is definitely made of wood.

On one hand, you have Mesoamerican proponents insisting that the term “tower” in the Book of Mormon actually means “stone pyramid” because the writers referred to the tower of Babel as a “great tower.” You have Nephi building a stone pyramid in his garden and King Benjamin having his people build him temporary a stone pyramid so he can teach them the law.

On the other hand, you have North American proponents relating the term to the Biblical use of wooden towers to preach to the people, as found in Nehemiah 8.

What do you think?

Source: Book of Mormon Concensus

We don’t know where Cumorah is?

People are still making the claim, promoted by a group of LDS scholars, that we don’t know where Cumorah is. 

This is occurring in classrooms around the Church right now: Gospel Doctrine classes, Gospel Principles classes, BYU campus Religion classes, various classes in the Institutes and Seminaries, and in homes or wherever else missionaries (and parents) are trying to teach the Gospel.

If you’re a student in one of these settings, you deserve to know what your teacher thinks, so ask. Probably 99% of the teachers don’t know enough about the topic to make an informed decision. They haven’t read Letter VII or other recent developments in Church history. They’ve deferred to the handful of LDS scholars who continue promoting their Mesoamerican theories against all reason and evidence.

Even worse than the claim we don’t know where Cumorah is, I keep hearing reports of BYU professors still promoting their Mesoamerican ideas in their classes, and if you read the KnoWhys published by Book of Mormon Central America and republished by Mesomania Magazine, you’ll see how devoted these people are to the two-Cumorahs theory.

It’s actually a nice persuasion tactic for these scholars to say we don’t know where Cumorah is. It makes them sound open-minded, when they’re anything but that. 

Upton Sinclair wrote, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” In this case, it may not be salary, but any of a number of other factors, that cause these scholars and educators to not understand.

Maybe it’s just Mesomania.

I’ve previously analyzed the intellectual history of the problem, including the development of the so-called “two-Cumorahs” theory. Basically, here’s the argument:

1. First, some RLDS and LDS scholars concluded that the Book of Mormon took place in Central America (aka, Mesoamerica).
2. They determined that this setting meant New York was too far away to be the location of Cumorah. 3. They concluded that Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery started, or perpetuated, a false tradition that their successors have continued to perpetuate.
4. They rationalized that there are two Cumorahs; i.e., a fake Cumorah (Moroni’s Cumorah) in New York which is merely the place where Moroni buried his plates, and the “real” Cumorah (Mormon’s Cumorah) in Southern Mexico which is the scene of the final battles and the place where Mormon hid the repository of Nephite records (Mormon 6:6). There are actually LDS scholars in Mexico scouting around for the “real Cumorah.”
5. Lately, these LDS scholars have said that whenever a prophet or apostle says something about Cumorah that contradicts what the scholars say, that prophet or aspostle was merely expressing his opinion and was wrong.
6. Other LDS scholars, relying on the two-Cumorahs rationale, have claimed Cumorah is in Baja California, or Panama, or Chile, or any of a number of other places around the world.

Here’s a convenient chart for comparison purposes.

People who say Cumorah is in New York
People who say Cumorah is not in New York
Joseph Smith
LDS scholars who promote a Mesoamerican setting for the Book of Mormon
Oliver Cowdery
LDS scholars who promote a Baja Californian setting for the Book of Mormon
David Whitmer
LDS scholars who promote a Panamanian setting for the Book of Mormon
Lucy Mack Smith
LDS scholars who promote a Peruvian setting for the Book of Mormon
Brigham Young
LDS scholars who promote a Chilean setting for the Book of Mormon
John Taylor 
Heber C. Kimball
Wilford Woodruff
Orson Pratt
Parley P. Pratt
Joseph F. Smith
Heber J. Grant
George Albert Smith
Joseph Fielding Smith
Marion G. Romney
Mark E. Peterson
Simple, clear, definitive
Mass of confusion

If you’re a student anywhere in the Church, at any age, look at this chart and think for yourself.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Color map book

For those interested in exploring Book of Mormon geography, you might find this helpful. A friend of mine, Rian Nelson, has compiled a book of maps based largely on Moroni’s America. He’s added some additional materials from his own detailed research.

I’ve arranged for a special discount for readers of this blog. If you’re interested, go to this link: https://www.moronisamerica.com/discount/

I like the book a lot. As Rian points out, the maps in my books are small and not in color. His are big and full color. Plus he has additional materials.

You can get it on CD as well, but a lot of people have asked about a printed copy, so here it is.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Content to submit it

Yesterday I was reminded of the Note to the Reader that I put in the Pocket Edition of Moroni’s America:

NOTE TO READER:
There are many possible interpretations of Book of Mormon geography. While this book describes my approach to the text—placing the events of the Book of Mormon in North America—alternative settings are meaningful and relevant to other people.
The purpose of the Book of Mormon is to bring people to Christ. This book of scripture speaks to people all over the world, many of whom have personalized it by adopting a theory of geography based in their local lands. In that sense, they can “liken it unto themselves.”
Until the Lord reveals more on this topic, there is no right or wrong interpretation. It has been left to us, as individuals, to make up our own minds.

I offer my thesis because it works for me and in the hope that it will help others focus on the core message and purpose of the Book of Mormon.  

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That note reflects what I’m trying to do with this blog, as well.

If you like to think of the Book of Mormon taking place where you live, great. It doesn’t matter if you live in Nigeria, Russia, Argentina, Guatemala, Thailand, Chile, or anywhere else–you can personalize it to your heart’s content.

But recognize that other people want to know where the Book of Mormon events took place in a literal sense; i.e., where Book of Mormon people actually lived. That’s my focus, and that’s why I emphasize the Hill Cumorah as a starting place. I think the evidence leads to the conclusion that there is one Cumorah and it is in New York. I also think many members of the Church who want to know the literal location of Book of Mormon events would reach that same conclusion once made aware of all the facts.

For too long, people haven’t had all the facts. Mesomania has had a deep and pervasive influence on anyone who has grown up in the Church or been converted. The artwork alone teaches the Mesoamerican setting. On top of that, we have LDS scholars who continue to insist on that setting, and they have influenced generations of their students–including current educators–to think this way.

Where I take exception is when privileges have been conferred on individuals–e.g., educators at Church institutions–and they either (i) don’t present all the facts to their students or (ii) repudiate the prophets and apostles.

Recently I’ve shown examples of scholars whose approach is, “I sustain the brethren as prophets and apostles, but when they disagree with my theories, they are speaking as men, giving their own opinions, and I don’t defer to their opinions.”

I hope people are aware of this attitude and take it into consideration when you study the topic.
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The most I can accomplish here is to make you, the reader, aware of aspects of this question you might not have known about or considered before. I like the way Oliver Cowdery expressed this idea in Letter III:

“Whether I shall succeed so far in my purpose as to convince the public of the incorrectness of those scurrilous reports which have inundated our land, or even but a small portion of them, will be better ascertained when I close than when I commence; and I am content to submit it before the candid for perusal, and before the judge of all for inspection, as I most assuredly believe that before HIM I must stand and answer for the deeds transacted in this life.

“Should I, however, be instrumental in causing a few to hear before they judge, and understand both sides of this matter before they condemn, I shall have the satisfaction of seeing them embrace it, as I am certain that one is the inevitable fruit of the other.”

Like Oliver, I’m content to submit the ideas in the blog for your consideration. I’m fine if you agree or disagree.

Just be sure you’ve considered all the facts before you make up your mind.

Most of all, enjoy studying the Book of Mormon as you seek answers. 

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Everything is awesome

It’s not just in the Lego movie that everything is awesome.

Think about this. We’re nearing the end of 2016, when more people around the world have studied the Book of Mormon than ever before, thanks to Gospel Doctrine class. It is changing lives as people come to Christ and enjoy living the gospel more fully.

During 2016, more people have read Letter VII (Seven) than ever before, at least since the days when it was actually published, in its entirety, in Church magazines (The Improvement Era, Millennial Star, Times and Seasons, Gospel Reflector, and Messenger and Advocate).

Who knows? Maybe in 2017 when we study Church history in Gospel Doctrine class, the Ensign will finally join the list of official LDS publications and print Letter VII in its entirety.

That would be awesome.

So far, during 2016, many people have learned what Joseph and Oliver said about Cumorah being in New York. Which in turn means more people can appreciate how the Book of Mormon describes a North American setting, with everything that goes along with that.

While I’ve heard anecdotes about how some Gospel Doctrine teachers are still referring to Central America as the setting for the Book of Mormon, I hear far more about the Heartland.

Here are some awesome key points that more and more members of the Church are appreciating:

1. Joseph and Oliver said Cumorah was in New York, and this knowledge was universal in the Church, among members and leaders, until new ideas originating with scholars from the Reorganized Church crept in during the 1920s-1930s, over the objections of Apostle Joseph Fielding Smith.

2. The New York Cumorah makes sense in terms of geography, topography, anthropology, and archaeology.

3. Joseph Smith linked the Book of Mormon to North America when he described the Midwest as the “plains of the Nephites,” when he said Zelph was known from the Rocky Mountains to the East Sea or Cumorah, and when he identified tribes living in these areas as Lamanites.

4. Joseph Smith never once linked the Book of Mormon to Central America. He repudiated Orson Pratt’s hemispheric model when wrote the Wentworth letter.

5. The Lord identified the tribes living in New York, Ohio, and Missouri as Lamanites (D&C 28, 30 and 32).

6. Farmers near Cumorah in New York plowed up artifacts for years and sold them to tourists to get rid of them. Boxes full of artifacts, including weapons, were removed from the New York Cumorah during excavations of the road to the top.

7. Every modern prophet and apostle who has spoken about Cumorah identified the New York hill as the scene of the final battles, including in General Conference as recently as 1975 and 1978. Between 1879 and 1920, the official version of the Book of Mormon specifically identified Cumorah as the hill in New York.

8. More and more LDS are learning that the Mesoamerican theory–the idea that the Book of Mormon took place in southern Mexico and Guatemala–is based on a theory that there are “two Cumorahs.” The theory goes like this. The hill in New York is merely the place where Moroni buried the plates. It was not Cumorah. The real Hill Cumorah is somewhere in southern Mexico. The idea that the hill in New York is the Cumorah of Mormon 6:6 is a false tradition started by unknown persons which Joseph, Oliver, and all of their successors adopted and perpetrated.*

9. Joseph Fielding Smith twice warned the Saints that the two-Cumorahs theory would cause members to become confused and disturbed in their faith in the Book of Mormon. The second time he was President of the Quorum of  the Twelve. The evidence of the fulfillment of that warning is all around us.

10. More and more LDS are rejecting the Mesoamerican theory as they learn about its implications. As people come to understand the origins of the Mesoamerican theory, they return to what Joseph and Oliver said in the first place and the Book of Mormon takes on a new meaning. The North American setting, often referred to as Heartland and Moroni’s America, makes sense and reinforces the significance of the promised land and associated covenants.

As awesome as 2016 has been, 2017 will be even awesomer!

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*Every Mesoamerican proponent believes Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and the other prophets and apostles, including President Marion G. Romney in General Conference in 1975, were perpetuating a false tradition! They don’t talk about this much because they don’t want ordinary members of the Church to realize this is what they’re saying. They go so far as to ridicule members of the Church who accept the New York Cumorah. The most well-known LDS scholar who promotes the Mesoamerican theory wrote, in a book titled Mormon’s Codex (published by Deseret Book) that “There remain Latter-day Saints who insist that the final destruction of the Nephites took place in New York, but any such idea is manifestly absurd. Hundreds of thousands of Nephites traipsing across the Mississippi Valley to New York, pursued (why?) by hundreds of thousands of Lamanites, is a scenario worthy only of a witless sci-fi movie, not of history.” Prominent LDS scholars have endorsed this book. I won’t list them here, but you can find out for yourselves if you read the reviews and the Foreword in the book. IOW, every time you read something written by an LDS scholar who promotes Mesoamerica, you can be sure that they, too, think Joseph and Oliver and the other prophets and apostles are perpetuating a false tradition. The implications are obvious, and explain why Joseph Fielding Smith’s warning to the Saints about the two-Cumorahs theory was so important. Too important to be ignored.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Temple Square vs Letter VII

Continuing from my previous post about Temple Square…

When we descended the escalator and turned left, we saw the wonderful exhibit about prophets through the ages. This is where you find the section about Joseph Smith that I discussed yesterday, with the unfortunate and confusing painting of Joseph translating the plates with no interpreter, with the plates sitting on the table between him and Oliver. The article in the Ensign pointed out the painting is historically inaccurate, but it’s on display in the North Visitors Center on Temple Square anyway. With millions of people touring the center every year, I imagined a conversation I would have with an investigator that knows something about the Church.
The conversation between M (me) and I (investigator) concluded with the last two lines:

I:   “What else in here is false?”
M: “Come over here. I’ll show you. But then let’s look at all the great stuff on giving service.”

I take Investigator over to an elaborate display about the Book of Mormon, including Helaman’s young warriors:

and Moroni burying the plates in New York:

So far, so good.

But the major display is unbelievable.

Notice anything strange?

Why would Mormon be surrounded by Mayan-like glyphs?

Moroni told Joseph Smith the record was written and deposited not far from his home in New York. Joseph and Oliver visited the repository (Mormon 6:6) in the Hill Cumorah. They wrote Letter VII, in which they described the specific location of the final battles of the Nephites on the west side of the Hill Cumorah in New York.

So what is going on here in the Visitors Center?

Supposedly the Church is “neutral” on the issue of Book of Mormon geography, but when you see displays like this, in the most prominent Visitors Center in the Church, visited by millions of people each year, you have to conclude the Church is neutral only on where in Mesoamerica the Book of Mormon took place!

I’m not the only one who has noticed this. You can do a web search and find others.

On top of that, when you open the missionary edition of the Book of Mormon you see this illustration:

I continue my conversation with my investigator friend:

I:   “You didn’t tell me the Nephites were Mayans.”
M: “They weren’t.”
I:   “Are you looking at this display?”
M: “Yes. Those aren’t, uh, necessarily Mayan glyphs. They represent ancient America. Generically.”
I:   “Seriously?”
M: “Okay, they do look Mayan. No doubt. But the Church is neutral on the geography question.”
I:   “Over there, Moroni is burying the plates in New York, right?”
M: “Yes.”
I:   “How did he get there if he lived in Central America?”
M: “Our scholars say he walked.”
I:   “He carried the gold plates that weighed 60 pounds, plus the breastplate and interpreters, all the way from southern Mexico to western New York.”
M: “That’s what they say.”
I:   “Let me get this straight. You say the Hill Cumorah is in New York, right?”
M: “Yes. Moroni buried the plates there.”
I:   “But you told me before that Mormon had a repository of records in the Hill Cumorah.”
M: “That’s right. It’s in Mormon 6:6.”
I:   “But your display shows Mormon writing the record in Mayan country.”
M: “The scholars say there were two Cumorahs.”
Investigator says nothing.
M: “I know it sounds crazy. I think the scholars are wrong. I think there’s one Cumorah, and it is in New York. Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery made that clear.”
I:   “So your scholars disagree with Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery?”
M: “Yes.”
Investigator looks at the display.
I:  “It looks like your Church agrees with the scholars.”
M: “The Church is neutral, as I said.”
I:   “You just gave me a Book of Mormon. It shows Christ visiting the Mayans.
M: “Yeah, but it’s supposed to represent all of North and South America.”
Investigator looks at me like I’ve lost my mind.
M: “I like to think the clouds represent North America.”
I:   “So you’re saying if I read your Book of Mormon, it will tell me about Mayans?”
M: “No. It never mentions pyramids, volcanoes, or anything about Central America. It doesn’t even mention stone buildings.”
I:   “What the?”
M: “I know. The paintings are a mistake. It didn’t happen like this.”
I:   “What about this display?”
M: “It’s a mistake, too. It didn’t happen like this.”
Investigator hands me the copy of the Book of Mormon I gave him. 
I:  “Tell you what. When you get your story straight, maybe I’ll read this.”

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Welcome to Russia

Lots of people are coming here from Russia lately. Welcome!

I’ve been to Russia several times and I love it there. Years ago I attended Church in Moscow. Long story, but quite interesting.

I  have high hopes for the LDS Church in Russia because the Russian people have always been interested in the well-being of one another, and of society as a whole. The Russians I met especially admired the focus on families and the Word of Wisdom.

Again, welcome to Russia!

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Temple Square vs the Ensign

This post isn’t directly related to Book of Mormon geography issues, but you’ll see why it’s here tomorrow.

Last week we visited Temple Square with some out-of-town non-LDS friends. The North Visitors Center had been remodeled since the last time we were there, particularly the bottom level. We noticed this exhibit about Joseph Smith:

Look at the painting on the far right.

I wondered, “Does the designer of this exhibit not read the Ensign?”

In the October 2015 Ensign (see article here, although you have to download the .pdf to see the painting itself), this painting was discussed. Here’s what the article says on p. 55:

“Artist’s portrayal of Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery working on the translation of the Book of Mormon. Unlike what is depicted here, Oliver Cowdery stated that he did not see the plates until after the translation was finished. Witnesses of the process reported that during the translation, the plates were shielded from view, such as by being covered with a linen cloth.” (Emphasis mine)

Part of page 55 from the Ensign

Pretty clear. This painting is not supported by any historical account. In fact, in this painting, Joseph isn’t even using a translator, whether a stone, urim and thummim, or anything else. (Note: the Ensign article is generating a lot of discussion about what actually happened, a topic for another day.)

Yet this incorrect painting is shown to the millions of people who visit Temple Square!

These three paintings are presumably part of a set, so for artistic purposes, maybe they go together. But why is the Visitors Center showing people a painting that not only is not supported by any historical account, but contradicts every account we have?

Fortunately, in this case, our visitors weren’t with us for this exhibit. I don’t like being in a position of explaining to non-members that exhibits in the Visitors Centers are wrong, but anyone who reads the Ensign (or the scriptures) knows this painting is misleading at best.

Is this painting on display because we don’t have a historically accurate painting of Joseph translating the plates? If so, I know of some artists who would be happy to remedy that problem.

Is it on display because we don’t want to show what our official Church magazine explains is the historical reality? I hope not.

Maybe you know of another reason why this painting is on display in the Visitors Center. If so, let me know. Mesomania is bad enough, but having historically inaccurate paintings in the most-visited Visitors Center in the Church is asking for confusion.

Sample dialog between M (me) and I (investigator) during a visit to Temple Square:

M: “Here are paintings showing Joseph’s story.”
I:   “What language were the plates written in?”
M: “Reformed Egyptian, apparently.”
I:   “Where did Joseph Smith learn Reformed Egyptian?”
M: “He didn’t.”
I:   “Then how is he reading the plates?”
M: “He had a translator. Moroni gave it to him with the plates.”
I:   “Where is it?”
M: “Moroni took it back when he retrieved the plates.”
I:   “No, I mean in this painting.”
M: “It’s not in there.”
I:   “But the scribe is writing.”
M: “I know. The painting is a mistake. It didn’t happen like this.”
I:   “Who is the scribe?”
M: “Oliver Cowdery.”
I:   “So he saw the plates? What about other people, like Joseph’s wife?”
M: “Actually, Oliver didn’t see the plates during the translation. They were covered with a cloth.”
I:   “But they’re sitting there on the table.”
M: “I know. The painting is a mistake. It didn’t happen like this.”
I:   “Why do you have a false painting on display?”
M: “I have no idea.”
I:   “I heard Mormons hide their history. Is there something you’re not telling me?”
M: “Uh, no. It’s all explained in the Ensign, our official magazine.”
I:   “You’re telling me you are not hiding your history, but you have a false painting of Joseph Smith translating the plates on display in your Visitors Centers, and I’m supposed to read your magazine to understand why the painting is false.”
M: “I guess so.”
I:   “What else in here is false?”
M: “Come over here. I’ll show you. But then let’s look at all the great stuff on giving service.”

To be continued…

Source: Book of Mormon Wars