"Ignorant of the relevant literature."

Since I turned off comments on most of the blogs, I miss the pundits, but it’s too much hassle to deal with all the spam. People send email instead, to which I respond when I have time.

Recently I heard a new complaint. Some Mesoamerican supporter claims that I’m “ignorant of the relevant literature.”

I wonder how widespread that belief is. Obviously, it’s a form of cognitive dissonance; i.e., the person believes that I must not be familiar with the “relevant literature” because I don’t agree with his/her views on the topic. IOW, I would be convinced by the “relevant literature” because he/she is convinced by it.

That’s a classic logical fallacy, but it’s not uncommon. It’s similar to the way missionaries can’t understand how anyone could read the Book of Mormon and not be convinced. Or how my Muslim friends can’t understand how people can read the Koran and not become Muslim. Or how Democrats can’t understand Republicans and vice versa.

These differences are not due solely to ignorance of what the other side deems “relevant literature,” although certainly, that may be an important cause for disagreement.

But it’s not the issue with respect to Book of Mormon geography.

Anyone who thinks I’m “ignorant of the relevant literature” should let me know, specifically, what he/she thinks I have not read.
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The first question is, what is “relevant?” 

I have been frankly astonished in the last two years at how ignorant Mesoamerican proponents are of a simple document in Church history: Oliver Cowdery’s Letter VII. Joseph Smith helped write it, had it copied into his personal history, and had it republished so every member of the Church in his day could read and understand it. Letter VII unequivocally declares, specifically as a fact, that the final battles of the Nephites and Jaredites took place in the mile-wide valley west of the Hill Cumorah in New York and that Mormon’s records repository was located there.

Letter VII is the most clear and authoritative statement we have about Book of Mormon geography. It was accepted by all of Joseph’s contemporaries and its teachings have been repeated multiple times in General Conference, including by members of the First Presidency.

Yet today, if you ask a Mesoamerican supporter about Letter VII, you’ll get a blank stare. Actually, you’ll get a blank stare if you ask most Church members, but the Mesoamerican supporters hold themselves out to be better informed and more sophisticated, so their ignorance of Letter VII is inexcusable.

Except, it’s not really inexcusable from the Mesomania perspective.

It’s intentional.

For a Mesoamerican supporter, Letter VII is not relevant. That’s why you’ll never find it in their literature.

Why?

Because it obliterates both the “two-Cumorahs” and the “limited geography Mesoamerican” theories.

Mesomania scholars and educators say Letter VII is not relevant because Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church by adopting a false tradition that Cumorah (the Cumorah of Mormon 6:6) was in New York.

Just like that, they explain it away.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

Actually, the Mesomania scholars and educators are doing everything possible to cast doubt on Letter VII. I’ve addressed seven of their arguments on another blog, here: http://www.lettervii.com/2017/01/why-some-people-reject-letter-vii.html

I invite anyone interested in the topic to read Letter VII in its historical context, along with the corroborating statements by every prophet and apostle who has commented on Cumorah, and then decide whether you want to accept the New York Cumorah or accept the Mesomania dogma that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church.
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Some people don’t believe that LDS scholars and educators have suppressed Letter VII. I’d be very interested in any publication or presentation by a Mesoamerican proponent that quotes from Letter VII and analyzes it any differently from the standard claim that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church.

There is really no alternative for the Mesoamerican proponents. That’s why I adapted a Dilbert cartoon that summarizes the psychology involved:

Mesomania scholars and educators encounter Letter VII

One good example is the seminal book, In Search of Cumorah by David A. Palmer, which is frequently cited by the citation cartel. Even though his book purports to be about Cumorah, he doesn’t even mention Letter VII by name, let alone quote it for readers (although he does put it in a footnote as part of his claim that Oliver Cowdery first labeled the hill as Cumorah in 1835). Palmer also wrote the “Cumorah” entry in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, which, of course, also censors Letter VII. It was this article that was plagiarized for an alleged fax from the “office of the First Presidency” that is often cited by Mesoamerican proponents.

Think about this for a moment. Because of Mesomania, the article on “Cumorah” in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism does not even mention that Oliver Cowdery, while Assistant President of the Church, stated it was a fact that the final battles of the Nephites and Jaredites took place in the valley west of the Hill Cumorah in New York, and that Mormon’s repository (Mormon 6:6) was in that same hill. The article doesn’t mention that Oliver himself had visited that repository multiple times, according to Brigham Young and others. This is raw censorship, made worse by the promotion instead of the author’s own theories and his own book.

Although Letter VII was republished in the Messenger and Advocate, the Gospel Reflector, the Times and Seasons, the Millennial Star, and the Improvement Era, it has never been published in the Ensign. Instead, the Ensign has published plenty of Mesoamerican-promoting articles, demonstrating the editorial posture of that magazine.

If not for the Joseph Smith Papers, which had to publish Letter VII only because Joseph had it copied into his personal history, Letter VII would not be available to most members of the Church today. Even then, it’s fairly obscure unless you know what you’re looking for.

Think of this. Most members of the Church might think reading the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, the Ensign, and the Church manuals would give them a solid background in Church history. But Letter VII has been completely censored from these publications.

It can’t be overemphasized that Joseph thought this was important enough to have it republished multiple times so everyone would be familiar with it.

Now, no one knows about it.

Outside of the LDS scholars and educators who know about Letter VII but suppress it, the only Church members who know about Letter VII are those who have read my blogs or my little book or some of the other materials by supporters of the North American geography.

Another good example of censorship is Mark Allen Wright’s otherwise excellent article, published in the Interpreter and elsewhere, titled “Heartland as Hinterland: The Mesoamerican Core and North American Periphery of Book of Mormon Geography.” He writes, “The best available evidence for the Book of Mormon continues to support a limited Mesoamerican model…. I introduce the Hinterland Hypothesis and argue that it can harmonize the Mesoamerican evidence for the Book of Mormon with Joseph Smith’s statements concerning Nephite and Lamanite material culture in North America.” He discusses Zelph and the plains of the Nephites, and while I think his approach is ineffective for several reasons, at least he addresses these issues.

Of course, he never once mentions Letter VII.
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From the Mesoamerican perspective, Letter VII and other material that support the North American setting for the Book of Mormon are ignored because they are deemed “not relevant.” That’s why Book of Mormon Central, which raised a lot of money on the initial premise that they would be a central repository for all Book of Mormon related research, instead refuses to include anything that does not promote their Mesoamerican ideology.

Actually, they have to do this; their corporate owner, BMAF, has the primary goal “to increase understanding of the Book of Mormon as an ancient Mesoamerican codex.”  Obviously, Letter VII would undermine that corporate goal.

To its credit, Book of Mormon Central did upload an early first edition of my little book on Letter VII, which I gave them royalty-free to distribute. But then they uploaded attack articles without giving me a chance to respond, which is exactly how the entire citation cartel has operated for years.

When a Mesoamerican supporter claims I am “ignorant of the relevant literature,” the term “relevant” always refers to “the literature that supports the Mesoamerican theory.”

Anything that contradicts their theories is not considered relevant.

The Mesomania approach would be laughable if only this ideology hadn’t become the “consensus” among LDS scholars and educators.
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The second question is, what “relevant literature” have I read?

In my college classes, I tell students not to plagiarize because I’ve read the entire Internet and I will recognize anything they copy. It’s a joke, of course, but in the context of Book of Mormon geography, I’ve been reading, studying, listening and attending for decades.

I was raised with the Arnold Friberg paintings, the old CES materials about Ancient America that focused on Central and South America, etc. I still have my old Book of Mormon (pre-1981) that contains not just the photos of the real Cumorah in New York, but photos of artifacts and locations in Central and South America. We used to watch Ancient America Speaks, which you can see on youtube now in English and Spanish.

At BYU, I took a class from Ray Matheny, who appears in the film, as well as John Sorenson and others. Everyone I knew accepted the Mesoamerican theory, especially after the Ensign published Sorenson’s articles in 1984.

Until FARMS was dissolved, I used to read all the FARMS newsletters and publications. I have most if not all of the issues of BYU Studies for the last couple of decades, and I subscribe to the digital version. I’ve read the Interpreter, Meridian Magazine, BMAF, FairMormon, Book of Mormon Central, and many of the related blogs. That’s how I came to realize it’s all a big citation cartel; i.e., the same people quoting one another (and themselves) over and over.

I’ve read all of Sorenson’s books and articles that I’m aware of. Same with the writings of other Mesomania supporters. Same with detractors, who have made some good points, such as the CES Letter and Earl Wunderli’s An Imperfect Book that focus on what I consider the false tradition of Mesomania (as do most critics, including former, non- and anti-Mormon authors).

Early on, I commented on specific articles, but people got offended. I’m not trying to offend anyone. I just want people to consider all the evidence, not just the evidence that Mesomania scholars and educators deem “relevant.” I made my points, so I haven’t done these reviews for a while.

Not that there is a lack of material.

I’ve signed a “comity” agreement which provided that I not name specific individuals, and I don’t want to implicate or offend anyone. (Sorenson didn’t sign it, and anyway it’s difficult to discuss the issue without mentioning him. And I acknowledged his positive influence in Moroni’s America.)

A few of the books I used in writing The Lost City of Zarahemla

Let’s just say that any book or article that promotes the Mesoamerican theory and has been cited by the citation cartel is probably in my library, physical or digital, but if not, I’ve read it on loan or online.

Let me repeat: If anyone can think of one they don’t think I’ve read, let me know. Maybe I have overlooked one, and if so, I’d like to know about it.

I have Mesoamerican books that I’ve annotated quite extensively but have never published my comments because we’re all trying to get along and I signed the comity agreement.

Besides, I don’t think beating a dead horse tapir makes sense.
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I’ll finish this post by recognizing the same logical fallacy that I addressed above; i.e., I don’t expect everyone who reads Letter VII to be convinced that Cumorah is in New York.

Plenty of people have read Letter VII and still think Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church.

If that’s your opinion, that’s fine with me.

But don’t assume you know everything just because you’ve been indoctrinated your entire life by Mesomania and then reached out to read a few passages from Letter VII, accompanied by all the anti-Letter VII material published by the citation cartel.

I think the vast majority of LDS people will accept Letter VII when they read it, especially when they read it in context. It’s even more persuasive when we study the relevant archaeology, anthropology, geology, geography, etc.

And as always, I welcome your input.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

The official position of the Church – Part 1

I’ve been curious about the claim that the Church has no official position on Book of Mormon geography.

The first question is, how is an official position of the Church expressed?

Maybe the clearest statement of official positions is the Articles of Faith, which have been canonized. However, these are expressions of belief, and the 8th article of faith leaves a lot of room for individual variation:

  11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

Another interesting aspect of the Articles of Faith is that they were included in the Wentworth letter, published in the Times and Seasons on March 1, 1842. Joseph explained the purpose in the opening paragraph:

“March 1, 1842.—At the request of Mr. John Wentworth, editor and proprietor of the Chicago Democrat, I have written the following sketch of the rise, progress, persecution, and faith of the Latter-day Saints, of which I have the honor, under God, of being the founder. Mr. Wentworth says that he wishes to furnish Mr. Bastow [Barstow], a friend of his, who is writing the history of New Hampshire, with this document. As Mr. Bastow has taken the proper steps to obtain correct information, all that I shall ask at his hands is that he publish the account entire, ungarnished, and without misrepresentation.”

Joseph considered the letter to be a complete statement as it was. The extraction of the articles of faith is useful because of how they were framed, but because Joseph specified that the letter be published “entire,” we can wonder whether the articles of faith are any more or less inspired than the rest of the letter.

IOW, if the articles of faith are now the “official position of the Church” on the covered topics, would not the rest of the Wentworth letter also be the official position of the Church on the covered topics? If not, why not?

I raise this because of the well known suppression of an important part of the Wentworth letter in Chapter 38 of the manual, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith.

If you want to read the entire letter, you can see it in the Times and Seasons link above, or on lds.org at this link: https://www.lds.org/ensign/2002/07/the-wentworth-letter?lang=eng

But you can’t read the entire letter in the lesson manual because the following passage was omitted:

Lesson manual:

“Through the medium of the Urim and Thummim I translated the record by the gift and power of God.… This book … tells us that our Savior made His appearance upon this continent after His resurrection;”

Original letter (with the omitted portions in red): 

“Through the medium of the Urim and Thummim I translated the record by the gift and power of God.

“In this important and interesting book the history of ancient America is unfolded, from its first settlement by a colony that came from the Tower of Babel at the confusion of languages to the beginning of the fifth century of the Christian era. We are informed by these records that America in ancient times has been inhabited by two distinct races of people. The first were called Jaredites and came directly from the Tower of Babel. The second race came directly from the city of Jerusalem about six hundred years before Christ. They were principally Israelites of the descendants of Joseph. The Jaredites were destroyed about the time that the Israelites came from Jerusalem, who succeeded them in the inheritance of the country. The principal nation of the second race fell in battle towards the close of the fourth century. The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country. This book also tells us that our Savior made His appearance upon this continent after His Resurrection;”
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It turns out, Joseph didn’t need to worry about Mr. Barstow declining to “publish the account entire.” Instead, he needed to worry about the Curriculum Committee.

It’s bad enough that they deleted the important passage in red, but they even deleted the “also” so readers would have no idea that the Book told us something else important.

I’ve asked around but haven’t been able to discover why the Curriculum Committee deleted this passage. I’m left to wonder why. Here are some possibilities, and if anyone who knows the real reason, let me know and I’ll edit this post to explain it.

For which of the following reasons did the Curriculum Committee delete the passage?

1. Because it is no longer considered an “official position” the way Joseph Smith himself considered it.

2. Because it contradicts the Mesoamerican and two-Cumorahs theory.*

3. Because it contradicts what modern anthropological and evolutionary science tells us about the history of humanity.

4. Because the Committee doesn’t want members to know about these issues, let alone discuss them.

In my opinion, #2 is the most likely reason. The two-Cumorahs and Mesoamerican theories (Mesomania) are so widely held that many people take them for granted, unexamined and unchallenged. The last thing the Mesomania advocates want is for members of the Church to read that Joseph Smith said “The remnant are the Indians that now inhabit this country” and for that to be considered the official position of the Church. [D&C 28, 30, and 32 say the same thing, which is a little more difficult for Mesomania advocates to avoid, so they just don’t mention those sections. See the display of the Mission to the Indians at the Church History Museum as an example. That’s the famous exhibit that explains “Early members of the Church believed the American Indians were Lamanites,” instead of explaining that the Lord identified the tribes in New York and Ohio as Lamanites, and that there are still some members today who believe what the D&C says.]

Mesomania is also why you’ll never read Letter VII in anything approved by the Curriculum Committee. The Joseph Smith papers had to publish Letter VII because Joseph had his scribe copy it into his personal journal, but even when they cite it, they refer to “a hill in New York” instead of “Cumorah,” which Letter VII unequivocally identifies as the hill in New York where three important things happened: (i) the final battles of the Jaredites and the Nephites; (ii) the site of Mormon’s record repository; and (iii) the site of Moroni’s stone box from which Joseph obtained the Harmony plates.
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We’re left wondering what is an “official position” at this point. If one part of the Wentworth letter is official (i.e., the Articles of Faith), but the rest is not, why would Joseph insist the account be published “entire” when he wrote it?
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A related example is Letter VII itself.

Not only was it written by the Assistant President of the Church, Oliver Cowdery, with the assistance of Joseph Smith.

Not only did Oliver receive the Priesthood and the keys of the gathering together with Joseph Smith.

Not only was Oliver commanded to select things to publish “as it shall be proved by the Spirit through him.” (D&C 57)

But Joseph Smith specifically endorsed all 8 letters, including Letter VII, on at least three occasions after they were first published in the Messenger and Advocate. He did not do this for any other written material besides these letters and the formal revelations.

Part of Letter I was included in the Pearl of Great Price, but the others were never formally canonized, possibly because of their length, but more likely because Oliver had left the Church (although that didn’t stop Joseph from endorsing the letters so they would be reprinted so all members of the Church would have them).
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In part 2, I’ll look at what some people say is an “official position” about Book of Mormon geography.
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* As you can imagine, Mesomania advocates have managed to contort Joseph’s plain language into a Mesoamerican setting. Joseph was living in Nauvoo, Illinois. He wrote to Mr. Wentworth, an editor living in Chicago, Illinois. The cities were about 250 miles apart. They shared the same state, the same “country” (in the sense of a nation, the United States), and the same “country” in the generic sense of an expanse of land. But you’ll find Mesomaniacs using sophistry to claim Joseph really meant the entire Western Hemisphere and just mis-wrote this one word in the entire letter. 

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Why missionary work is stalling

People often ask me why missionary work is stalling. It is well known that last year, 2016, saw the slowest growth of the Church since the 1930s .This is a complicated issue that I can’t spend much time on here, but there is an important element that most people are not considering, and it has to do with Letter VII, ultimately.

Here’s the graphic. I’ll explain it below.

Converts per 1,000 members. Graph by David Allan.

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Most people know that much of the growth of the Church now is in Africa; in fact, nearly 10% of convert baptisms in the Church in 2015 were in the Africa West Area alone (24,409 converts out of 261,862 total throughout the Church).

I think the numbers are higher than 10% because so many “convert” baptisms in the U.S. are children baptized when they are older than 8, as well as part-member families, which legitimately count, but are not “converts” in the sense that we usually think; i.e., people coming from another religious tradition.

The Africa West Area consists of Sierra Leone, Liberia, Cote d’Ivoire, Ghana, Togo, Benin, and Nigeria, where total Church membership is only around 270,000. This means the Africa West Area had a conversion rate of about 90 converts per 1,000 members.

Overall in the Church, the conversion rate is about 16 per 1,000 members. (261,862/15,900,000)

Other areas in Africa have comparable conversion rates to the Africa West Area. In 2016, 100 stakes were created. 40 were in the U.S., 21 in Africa, 7 in Central America, and 11 in South America. 16 of the 30 new districts were also in Africa. These statistics show that because Africa has relatively few members, the conversion rate per 1,000 members is far higher than elsewhere in the world, looking at regions or areas.

In 2017, 33 new stakes have been created, with a projection of 20 more to be created. 26 are in Africa, 8 are in Central America, 4 in the Philippines, 11 in the U.S., 2 in South America, 1 in Canada, which reflects relative growth in those areas.

This means the conversion rate outside of Africa is well below 16/1,000.

Here’s a graphic depicting the trends. Note that converts in Africa didn’t increase significantly until around the year 2000. The graphic would depict a much steeper decline if not for Africa.

Chart prepared by David Allan

It would be interesting to see this chart on a regional or Area basis, but that information is not publicly available. No doubt, there is considerable variation among the various Areas. You can read about trends and statistics here: http://cumorah.com/

The statistics on converts per missionary reflect similar trends.

# conversions per missionary from https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/04/converts-per-missionary/
Back in 2013, some people thought that the large increase in the number of missionaries from the age change would correspond to much higher baptism numbers, but that didn’t materialize.
If we have double the missionaries out, and a stake president said that at a recent priesthood conference in Utah County they told them that by around July there will be 90,000+ missionaries out there. We could be easily looking at 500,000 or so converts by next year, I think it could come close to 400,000 for this year since the initial part of ‘the surge’ is really only now beginning to start going out to their in-field areas.”
By and large, people haven’t noticed this decline in baptisms per missionary and baptisms per 1,000 members because the number of total baptisms hasn’t changed all that much.

# convert baptisms from https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/04/converts-per-missionary/

We can think of as many explanations for these trends as we want, and every ward, stake and Area has unique circumstances, but I’d like to point to an interesting development. Of course, correlation is not causation, but in this case, I think there are significant elements of causation.

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With the background above, look at the chart again. Based on the statistics on creation of new stakes and districts, the recent downward trend would be much steeper if we excluded Africa. Why is that important? One reason could be that it is educated people in the Western Hemisphere who are most influenced by the factors I put on the chart.
I’m not saying, suggesting, or implying that “the” cause of the increase in baptisms/1000 in the late 1970s was President Romney’s 1975 conference talk about Cumorah, but I do think that generally, when we focus on what Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery actually taught about the Book of Mormon (i.e., Letter VII, even if it isn’t actually quoted), people respond to the Spirit. A similar thing happened after Elder Peterson spoke about the New York Cumorah in General Conference in 1978, and when President Benson gave a series of General Conference talks about the Book of Mormon, the Constitution, etc., especially his 1986 talk about the Book of Mormon as the keystone of our religion, his 1987 talk about the U.S. Constitution, and his 1988 talk about Flooding the Earth with the Book of Mormon. 
On the other hand, when there were significant developments in the promotion of the Mesoamerican and two-Cumorahs theories, there were sharp declines in baptisms per thousand members.
This could all be a coincidence, of course. 
You decide.
As near as I can tell, the last time the New York Cumorah was mentioned in General Conference was in 1978. It would be interesting to see what would happen if this was discussed anew in General Conference. 
What if someone–anyone–actually quoted Letter VII from Joseph Smith’s personal history?
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I’ll focus on the 1981 change in the illustrations in the Book of Mormon as an example because I don’t have time to go through each of the incidents on the chart. 
As I’ve explained before here, https://bookofmormonwars.blogspot.com/2017/05/expectations-and-art-missionary-work.html, far more people view the illustrations in the missionary and foreign language editions of the Book of Mormon than read the actual text. 
In 1981, when the New York Cumorah images were removed from the official editions and replaced with the depiction of Christ visiting the Nephites in Chichen Itza, along with Moroni burying the plates at “a hill in New York” (because the “real” Cumorah was in Mexico), anyone reading the text together with Church history became confused, just as President Joseph Fielding Smith warned.
Imagine an investigator, youth, or missionary looking at the Friberg and John Scott paintings and then reading the text to learn about Mayans, massive stone pyramids, jungles, etc. 
The text doesn’t fulfill the promises made by this artwork.
Readers are disappointed. 
They search the Internet for answers and read either anti-Mormon or LDS scholarly articles, both of which teach that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church about the Hill Cumorah being in New York.
Or, they visit Temple Square and learn the same thing in the North Visitors Center, as I’ve explained here: https://bookofmormonwars.blogspot.com/2016/12/yes-they-do-teach-two-cumorahs-theory.html
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Usually, when people discuss trends in missionary work, they focus on such things as “the Internet,” “materialism,” “general wickedness,” changes in missionary ages, the “centers of strength” policy, missionary preparation, etc. etc. No doubt all of these play some role.
But if the Book of Mormon was designed to tell the remnant who they are and to convince “Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ,” what do we expect when we confuse investigators, youth, and the missionaries themselves about what Joseph and Oliver plainly taught in Letter VII? 
As long as our LDS scholars, educators, and media people are trying to persuade everyone that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church about the New York Cumorah, I think the downward trend will continue.
But that’s merely my opinion.
I’m sure the Mesomania cognitive dissonance will prevent these same LDS scholars, educators, and media people from even trying to understand my point, let alone accept it.
But there are plenty of other people who aren’t suffering from Mesomania who will know what I’m talking about and will offer even more insights as we continue to discuss this.
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BTW, except at BYU, there’s no policy that prohibits anyone from quoting Letter VII or any of the modern prophets and apostles who have quoted it or taught what Joseph and Oliver taught in Letter VII. You can quote it from the Improvement Era, the Millennial Star, the Times and Seasons, the Gospel Reflector, and the Messenger and Advocate.
You just won’t find it in the Ensign.
Yet.
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In the future, when people ask me about what’s happening with missionary work, I’ll refer them to this post. You can do the same when people ask you those questions.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Whatever the data says

I’m still hopeful that members of the Church will someday reach a consensus about Book of Mormon geography, or at least the simple point that there is one Cumorah and it is in New York. At this point, I think it will be ordinary members who reach this consensus, while the LDS Mesomania scholars and educators becoming increasingly isolated in their academic world.

The reason: Mesomania requires you to reject the most obvious and clear data on the question of Book of Mormon geography.
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If you’re still evaluating alternative models of Book of Mormon geography, you might be persuaded by the idea that one model or another will do “whatever the data says.”

Here’s a Dilbert cartoon that explains what Mesomania scholars and educators really mean when they say “We’ll do whatever the data says.”

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-07-10

Don’t forget that our Mesoamerican friends have already made up their minds–their #1 goal has nothing to do with following the evidence.

Instead, they say, “Our goals are (1) to increase understanding of the Book of Mormon as an ancient Mesoamerican codex.” Such a goal is entirely inconsistent with following the evidence.

Beyond that problem, the question is, what data?

The only specific, detailed, and unambiguous declaration about Book of Mormon geography that I know of is Letter VII. Oliver Cowdery, with Joseph’s assistance and subsequent endorsement multiple times, made three major points.

1. The final battles of the Nephites and the Jaredites took place in the mile-wide valley west of the Hill Cumorah in New York.

2. Mormon put all of the original records in the repository in the New York Hill Cumorah.

3. Mormon gave his son Moroni only his (Mormon’s) abridgment of the original records.

Through Letter VII, Joseph and Oliver established that there is one Hill Cumorah, that it is in New York, that Mormon’s repository was there, and that Joseph Smith actually translated two separate sets of plates (because Moroni did not have the plates of Nephi to put in his stone box).

Who accepts this data?

Only those who accept the New York Cumorah.

IOW, proponents of Baja, Panama, Chile, Mesoamerica, Eritrea, Sri Lanka, and everywhere else don’t accept this data.

How is this possible, you wonder?

Easy. They don’t consider Letter VII “data” because it was just the work of Joseph and Oliver, two men whom, they insist, never had a revelation about Cumorah. Instead, they claim Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church about the New York Cumorah.

Those of us who accept Joseph and Oliver note that these two men had personal experience inside Mormon’s repository in the Hill Cumorah in New York. We find it irresponsible to reject their unambiguous teaching about Cumorah just because, in the eyes of the scholars, the experiences Joseph and Oliver had inside the repository cannot have been real because it contradicts their theories.

Why do the scholars reject this data?

Purely because it contradicts their Mesoamerican and two-Cumorahs theories.

They seek to accomplish their goal of by suppressing and rejecting any data that contradicts it.

This is no way to reach a consensus.

Source: Book of Mormon Concensus

Letter VII inoculation and the two departments in the New York Cumorah

I need to post something about Letter VII that has been overlooked, but it’s important to provide the context for the issue for those new to this site.

Some LDS scholars and educators are still trying to persuade people that the “real” Cumorah is in Mexico. They advocate the “two-Cumorahs” and “Mesoamerican” theories that claim Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery were ignorant speculators who misled the Church with a false tradition about Cumorah being in New York.

[Some people don’t believe our LDS scholars and educators teach these things, but anyone who teaches the limited Mesoamerican geography models teaches exactly what I wrote in the preceding paragraph. You’ll see it in BYU Studies, the Interpreter, Mesomania Meridian Magazine, FairMormon, the old FARMS stuff, everything published by the Maxwell Institute, BMAF, Book of Mormon Central (America), etc.]

Those who have read Letter VII are inoculated against these theories. That’s why you won’t see Letter VII being taught at BYU, CES, or in anything published by the citation cartel.*

Here’s a simple example.

Orson Pratt, Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Heber C. Kimball and others explained that Mormon’s repository (Mormon 6:6) was in the same Hill Cumorah in New York from which Joseph obtained the plates from Moroni. There were two departments in the hill. Moroni’s stone box was in one location, while the repository of Nephite records was in another location. I’ve provided the references plenty of times.

Letter VII explained this first, though.

Mormon, “by divine appointment, abridged from those records, in his own style and language, a short account of the more important and prominent items, from the days of Lehi to his own time, after which he deposited, as he says, on the 529th page, all the records in this same hill, Cumorah and after gave his small record to his son Moroni, who, as appears from the same, finished, after witnessing the extinction of his people as a nation.”

Here’s the link from Joseph  Smith’s own history: http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/91
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Bonus clue. Those who are familiar with the two sets of plates scenario will recognize that Oliver is telling us about that here as well. Oliver says Mormon gave “his small record” to Moroni. Mormon’s “small record” consisted of the abridgment, “in his own style and language.” Mormon deposited all of the original records in the hill Cumorah in New York. The abridged records are the ones Joseph took to Harmony, where he translated them all (except the sealed portion), through the last leaf (the Title Page).

But in D&C 10, the Lord tells Joseph he has to translated the plates of Nephi to replace the lost 116 pages.

The plates of Nephi were not abridged. They were original records. Consequently, it is not only the title page and all the other evidence that informs us that Joseph did not have the plates of Nephi in Harmony, but here, Oliver tells us the same thing.

Mormon did not give any original plates to Moroni.

Joseph did not get the plates of Nephi from Moroni’s stone box. He never had them in Harmony. He didn’t get them until he arrived in Fayette.

We just have to pay close attention to understand what Oliver is saying, but it’s as clear as words can be.
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*The sole exception of which I am aware is Book of Mormon Central, which, to their credit, did put the first edition of my short book titled Letter VII: Oliver Cowdery’s Message to the World about the Hill Cumorah, into their database. But then they added critical articles without giving me a chance to respond or even including my responses that they know about. Unsuspecting readers who go to Book of Mormon Central think they are getting both sides of the issue of Letter VII, but instead they are getting a false, incomplete presentation of the issues with the editorial thumb firmly on the Mesomania side of the scale.

For this reason, I no longer even try to work with Book of Mormon Central. They are unabashed advocates of the two-Cumorahs and Mesoamerican theories, exactly as I described in the first paragraph. 

Source: Letter VII

Bonus fun with Cumorah – 2 million edition

Here’s some bonus fun.
There’s an online discussion about Cumorah at a web page I won’t dignify with a link, but here’s a comment that is classic Mesomania. I don’t fault the person who wrote/posted it because he/she is simply repeating what he/she was taught. It’s pure misinformation.
“So you’re telling me you know the exact spot of the hill cumorah where more than two million soldiers along with their wives and children were killed in battle and the only evidence anyone has ever recovered from there is Zelph? No arrow heard, swords, chariots, etc? More than two million bodies killed and not bones, bodies or any trace of that civilization?”
Imaginary depiction of Cumorah battle from Mesomania Meridian Magazine
Of course, it was not whoever posted comments on the web page, but Joseph and Oliver who identified the exact spot of the hill Cumorah, as anyone who has read Letter VII knows. 

But because the citation cartel won’t discuss that (and tries everything possible to persuade those who have read Letter VII that Joseph and Oliver were ignorant speculators who misled the Church), we can’t expect anyone educated at BYU to know about Letter VII. 
Nor can we expect anyone who has been educated by Curriculum Committee materials, including CES, to know about Letter VII.
Yet.
Hopefully that will change soon.
In the meantime, let’s look at the misinformation contained in this post:
“where more than two million soldiers along with their wives and children were killed in battle.” 
I’m not sure of the original source of this misinformation, whether it was LDS, RLDS, or anti-Mormons who came up with it, but it is often repeated. Of course, the Book of Mormon itself makes no such claim. Nor does Letter VII.
Mormon says he beheld, from Cumorah, 20,000 of his people who were killed. These were his ten thousand and the ten thousand of Moroni. These were total people not just soldiers. You can read it yourself at Mormon 6:11-12, here.
In verse 13, Mormon speaks about all the others who “had” fallen, 21 leaders with their 10,000 each. I realize some have interpreted this to mean “had fallen and were visible from the top of Cumorah,” but that’s adding terms that are not in the text. The only ones visible were the 20,000 he says he saw from the top of Cumorah.
The war had waged for a long time, in an “awful scene of blood and carnage.” From the top of Cumorah, Mormon could see the last 20,000 of his people, but he listed the other 210,000 who had been killed during the final wars. Nowhere does Mormon say he could see any of his people from Cumorah except the 20,000 who had been led by him and Moroni.
It’s the same situation with the Jaredites. From Ether 15:2 we learn that Coriantumr “saw that there had been slain by the sword already nearly two millions of his people, and he began to sorrow in his heart; yea, there had been slain two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.” 
This was long before he and the remainder of his people fled to the hill Ramah, known as Cumorah by the Nephites. Even after the 2 million had been killed, there were more battles, in at least two of which Coriantumr was wounded. There is no accounting of the total number of people killed at Ramah. All we know is “that they did gather together all the people upon all the face of the land, who had not been slain, save it was Ether.” We also know they fought for about a week. By the end of the 5th day, there were only 121 people left. The next day, 37 of Shiz’s people were killed, and 25 of Coriantumr’s people were killed. The day after, 59 people were killed, leaving only Shiz and Coriantumr. This is about 60 casualties a day. If we extrapolate back a few days, there wouldn’t be more than a few thousand at most who died at Ramah.
I realize there are many ways to interpret these passages, but we’re only given a few specific numbers and this seems the most reasonable way to interpret the text.
Oliver Cowdery explained all of this back in 1835 in Letter VII. [The link is to Joseph’s own personal history in the Joseph Smith Papers.]
“In this vale [i.e., the valley west of Cumorah in New York] lie commingled, in one mass of ruin the ashes of thousands [the residue of the Jaredites], and in this vale was destined to consume the fair forms and vigerous [sic] systems of tens of thousands of the human race [i.e., Nephites and Lamanites]—blood mixed with blood, flesh with flesh, bones with bones and dust with dust!”
“Thousands” of Jaredites, which fits the text, and “tens of thousands” of Nephites and Lamanites, which also fits the text. Mormon wrote that he could see 20,000 of his own people. Presumably there were an equivalent number of Lamanites, more or less, so “tens of thousands” is spot on. And, of course, not all of these needed to be in the mile-wide valley. From the top of Cumorah, you can see more than a mile away.
Mesomaniacs and anti-Mormons continue to insist there must be evidence of 2 million dead Jaredites, plus their families, and 200,000 plus Nephites, plus their families and the dead of the Lamanites. 
But the text makes no such claim.
Oliver Cowdery (assisted and endorsed by Joseph Smith) said there were “thousands” of Jaredites killed in the valley west of Cumorah and “tens of thousands” of Nephites and Lamanites. 
Oliver and Joseph stuck with the text. I think the rest of us should, too.
“No arrow heard, swords, chariots, etc?”
Anyone who has visited the museums and private collections knows that many thousands of arrowheads and other weapons dating to Nephite and Jaredite times have been discovered from Iowa through the “plains of the Nephites” in Illinois, Indiana and Ohio, all the way to western New York. Breastplates and headplates are well known artifacts as well. The text never mentions chariots in connection with these battles. 
We also have eyewitness accounts of boxes full of arrowheads, axes, etc. being uncovered on the hill Cumorah itself, although we don’t know what happened to them yet, apart from some photos. We also have accounts of local farmers selling baskets full of arrowheads, kids trading them, etc. Today there are extensive private collections of all of these artifacts. 
The Mesomaniacs cite the articles by a BYU archaeologist to the effect that Cumorah is a “clean hill.” I’ve addressed those in detail previously. You can search the blog if you want to read about why that claim doesn’t hold up.
Non-LDS archaeologists say there were over a million mound sites in North America, many of them mass burials just as described in the text. 
It’s simply a phony Mesomania/anti-Mormon requirement to demand evidence of millions of people being killed at Cumorah.

Source: Book of Mormon Wars

More fun with Cumorah – Google Earth edition

If you search for the Hill Cumorah on Google Earth right now, you’ll get a nice aerial view of the bizarre Mayan pyramid built on what many LDS scholars now refer to merely as “a hill in New York.” Look at this link.

In case Google updates the satellite photo, here it is:

 In the view below, you get some additional ground-level photos of two Cumorahs!

The one on top is “a hill in New York” that was identified as Cumorah by Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, and all of their contemporaries, as well as Joseph Fielding Smith, Marion G. Romney, Mark E. Peterson, etc.
Mesomaniac LDS scholars now want you to believe this New York Cumorah was a false tradition. They insist that all of the modern prophets and apostles listed above were ignorant speculators who misled the Church until the BYU Mesomanics figured it out and rescued us from this false tradition. At least, this is what you will be taught if you attend BYU or read any of the publicatons of the citation cartel (BYU Studies, Mesomania Meridian Magazine, the Interpreter, FairMormon, BMAF and its subsidiary Book of Mormon Central America, etc.).
Instead, the citation cartel insists that you believe the lower photo is the “real” Cumorah. This is Cerro El Vigia Near Santiago Tuxtla, Veracruz, Mexico. You can see it better here, about half way down the page.
Cerro El Vigia is only one of multiple “candidates” for the comical wild goose chase for the “real” Cumorah in Mesoamerica. 
Of course, our favorite location for Cumorah doesn’t show up on Google Earth yet. It never will, actually, because it’s the mythical map being taught to every new BYU student, shown at the left in close-up. This is the map invented as a response to the official policy at BYU to stop teaching the two-Cumorahs and Mesoamerican theories. The staff simply used the traditional Mesomania interpretations of the text and used actual North and South instead of the Sorenson translation in which North means West, etc. Then they avoided the many problems presented by variations of the Mesomania models by making their own assumptions and creating a video-game version of the imaginary Book of Mormon lands.
BYU students are expected to have increased faith in the Book of Mormon by learning that the events took place in a mythical, video game setting.
Of course, BYU students are never taught about Letter VII and the related historical context. Nor are any readers of material published by the citation cartel.
I’d rather have people read the text and Letter VII than everything ever published by the citation cartel.
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Source: Book of Mormon Wars

Fun with Zelph

Our friends at Book of Mormon Central (America) BOMC(A) put out an awesome no-wise today. Check it out:

https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/who-was-zelph

Whenever you read a no-wise at this site, you have to remember the goal of their corporate owner BMAF:

Our goals are (1) to increase understanding of the Book of Mormon as an ancient Mesoamerican codex,

BMAF and BOMC(A) are harmless clubs for Mesomaniacs; i.e., these are organizations dedicated to the two-Cumorahs and Mesoamerican theories of Book of Mormon geography. They claim Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery were ignorant speculators who misled the Church about Cumorah being in New York. They’re not interested in anything that contradicts their theories.

Once you understand that, there’s no reason to be upset, annoyed, disappointed, etc., by anything they publish.

And, we won’t be surprised to see a display of full citation cartel methodology. Look at footnotes 21 and 24 for example. The “Heartland as Hinterland” article doesn’t even mention Letter VII, for example. The Roper article on John Bernhisel is full of holes but BOMC(A) won’t publish a criticism of it. For that, you have to go to my blog, here. http://interpreterpeerreviews.blogspot.com/2015/10/ropers-bernhisel-argument-trifecta-of.html

For more, just search for Bernhisel on my blogs.
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The Zelph story is a problem for BMAF and BOMC(A) because if Zelph was a warrior under a Nephite prophet, died in Illinois, and was known from the hill Cumorah or east sea to the Rocky mountains, that’s a major problem for the two-Cumorahs and limited geography Mesoamerican theory.

Of course, the Mesomania strategy is to sow as much confusion about this account as possible, exactly as they do in this no-wise. Their thinking goes, we can’t tell what Joseph actually said because too many people wrote about it.

There are two major article on Zelph in the literature, one by Cannon and one by Godfrey. Cannon generally supports the credibility of the Zelph incident, while Godfrey seeks to undermine it. So guess which article BOMC(A) chose to put in their database? No surprise, they put the Gofrey article there and omitted the Cannon article.

Now, look at an example of how Godfrey seeks to sow confusion:

“Woodruff writes that the prophet “Onandagus” was known “from the hill Cumorah on [sic] East sea to the Rocky mountains.” This is the earliest source for this geographical data. (In Reuben McBride’s account it is Zelph who was widely known.)

You can see from the quotation from Woodruff’s journal below that the syntax could be understood to refer to either Zelph or Onandagus, but Godfrey is trying to persuade readers that we shouldn’t trust Woodruff, so he tells readers, falsely, that the only interpretation is one that contradicts McBride’s.

You find this kind of rhetoric throughout the no-wise. Look at this claim:

However, when this account [the account in History of the Church] is compared against the manuscript history of the Church and the earlier sources on Zelph, the explicit connections to Book of Mormon places and events become tenuous. 

It turns out that Wilford Woodruff directly connected Zelph (or Onandagus) to two Book of Mormon locations: Cumorah and the East Sea. This is as opposite to “tenuous” as it is possible in the English language.

Normally, we accept Woodruff’s journal as accurate and reliable. His journal is the sole source for the famous (but inaccurate) quotation, found in the Introduction to the Book of Mormon and attributed to Joseph Smith, “I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”

Actually, Woodruff wrote that as a summary of an entire day’s worth of teaching and did not put it in quotation marks. But Woodruff has such credibility that scholars have retained this mistaken attribution anyway.

Woodruff’s journal is the source of many of the Mesomania arguments, such as the “North and South America” meme that I’ve addressed recently.

So long as the Mesomaniacs think Woodruff supports their theories, they quote him approvingly. But if he contradicts them, they’ll go all out to say he didn’t know what he was talking about, the same way they do with Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.

I don’t have time to write more, but I want people to see what Woodruff wrote in his journal in May 1834:

Wilford Woodruff’s Journal, Vol. 1, 1833–1840, p.10

Brother Joseph often addressed us  in the name of the Lord while on our journey and often while addressing [p.10] the camp he was clothed upon with much of the spirit of God. His precepts were very instructive and interesting.
While on our travels we visited many of the mounds which were flung up by the ancient inhabitants of this continent probably by the Nephites & Lamanites. We visited one of those Mounds and several of the brethren dug into it and took from it the bones of a man.
[Interlinearly after “We visited one of those Mounds”:] considerd to be 300 feet above the level of the Illinois river. Three persons dug into the mound & found a body. Elder Milton Holmes took the arrow out of the back bones that killed Zelph & brought it with some of the bones in to the camp. I visited the same mound with Jesse J Smith. Who the other persons were that dug in to the mound & found the body I am undecided.

Brother Joseph had a vission respecting the person. He said he was a white Lamanite. The curs was taken from him or at least in part. He was killed in battle with an arrow. The arrow was found among his ribs. One of his thigh bones was broken. This was done by a stone flung from a sling in battle years before his death. His name was Zelph. Some of his bones were brought into the Camp and the thigh bone which was broken was put into my waggon and I carried it to Missouri. Zelph was a large thick set man and a man of God. He was a warrior under the great prophet /Onandagus/ that was known from the hill Camorah /or east sea/ to the Rocky mountains. The above knowledge Joseph receieved in a vision.

The / represents later additions or corrections.

It’s also interesting to consider Matthias Cowley’s edited version:

“During our travels we visited many mounds thrown up by the ancient inhabitants, the Nephites and Lamanites. This morning, June 3rd, we went on to a high mound near the river. From the summit we could overlook the tops of the trees as far as we could see. The scenery was truly beautiful. On the summit of the mound were stones which presented the appearance of three altars, they having been erected, one above the other, according to the ancient order of things. Human bones were seen upon the ground. Brother Joseph requested us to dig into the mound ; we did so ; and in about one foot we came to the skeleton of a man, almost entire, with an arrow sticking in his backbone. Elder Milton Holmes picked it out, and brought it into the Camp, with one of the leg bones, which had been broken. I brought the thigh bone to Missouri. I desired to bury it in the Temple Block in Jackson County; but not having this privilege, I buried it in Clay County, Missouri, near the house owned by Col. Arthur and occupied by Lyman Wight.” The arrowhead referred to is now in the possession of President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City, Utah. “Brother Joseph,” continues Wilford, “feeling anxious to learn something of this man, asked the Lord, and received an open vision. The man’s name was Zelph. He was a white Lamanite, the curse having been removed because of his righteousness. He was a great warrior, and fought for the Nephites under the direction of the Prophet Onandagus. The latter had charge of the Nephite armies from the Eastern sea to the Rocky Mountains. Although the Book of Mormon does not mention Onandagus, he was a great warrior, leader, general, and prophet. Zelph had his thigh bone broken by a stone thrown from a sling, but was killed by the arrow found sticking in his backbone. There was a great slaughter at that time. The bodies were heaped upon the earth, and buried in the mound, which is nearly three hundred feet in height.” History of the Life and Labors of Wilford Woodruff. AS RECORDED IN HIS DAILY JOURNALS PREPARED FOR PUBLICATION BY MATTHIAS COWLEY THE DESERET NEWS Salt Lake City, Utah 1909 page 41

So

Source: About Central America